On Wednesday
February 28, we traveled to Bar Kochba, the location of the Bar Kochba Revolt
from 132-135 CE. Relations between Romans and Jews had been okay for a bit, but
they started to deteriorate. The Roman leader at the time was Hadrian, and he
made a long list of decrees that forbade Jewish practices. It is unclear
whether this was a cause or effect of the revolt, but it cannot be debate that
they upset the Jews. The Bar Kochba Revolt was the first major revolt since the
Great Revolt and the destruction of the Second Temple, but it was very
different.
The Great Revolt was
extremely disorganized and driven entirely by anger. The Bar Kochba Revolt had
been planned out and organized thoroughly. We got to see this first-hand by
going into one of the cave tunnels used by the Jews. The tunnels were small but
branched out into larger rooms. The rebels would go out and fight a
battle, and then they would return to the caves where the Romans couldn't find
them. They also stockpiled weapons. They would purposefully make weapons poorly
so the Romans would reject them, and then they would keep them for themselves.
This showed the good leadership they were under which is also who the revolt
was named for.
The main leader was
Bar Kochba. His name was originally Bar Kosiba, meaning "son of
Kosiba," but Rabbi Akiva and others saw him as very important and even as
the messiah, so he was renamed Bar Kochba, meaning "son of star." He
led this organized revolt successfully for a while, even gaining Jerusalem, but
they were eventually defeated on the 9th of Av in 135 CE, which proved that he
was not the messiah. They then called him Bar Kosiva which means "son of
disappointment."
After going through
the Bar Kochba caves, we went to Beit Guvrin, where there is an amphitheater
and a church-turned-mosque. We played a "gladiator game" inside the
amphitheater and saw ruins of the place where there were bathhouses and rooms for
gladiators to be held before going out to fight. We sat in one of those rooms
and learned about Rabbi Akiva.
This tiyul was
really fun and interesting, yet it was bittersweet. I love caves, so crawling
through the ones used so long ago was really amazing. However, it was sad to
think of how the people who lived in these caves were fighting for their
culture, and they lost and were killed. Playing a gladiator game where the goal
is to knock people's hats off is fun, but to think of how people were put out
there to actually kill each other is really surreal. It was even weirder to see
the fake people cheering it on and to think about the real people who were
there so long ago. Some of the people in those crowds were Jewish.
This leads me to my
questions. Do you think that it was okay
for Jews to go to these Roman sporting events and watch people kill and be
killed? Was it actually acceptable or just something they did anyway? If you lived
back then, do you think you would go?
I don't believe that it was okay for the Jews to attend these events, and I don't believe that it was okay for anyone to attend these events. But in historical context I guess it's different. I would say that it was just something that the Jews would do anyway, not acceptable. The last part of the question is interesting, because I'm not sure how Jewish I would be if I was in that time period. If I was hellenistic I would probably go because that would be fun, but if I was serious about being Jewish, I wouldn't.
ReplyDeleteI personally have like really bad anxiety about death and dying so I wouldn't go. But I also don't like the idea of supporting that industry. People are free to make their own decision to go to Roman coliseums, but supporting the industry if slaughtering people for personal enjoyment is pretty disturbing to me. With that being said, gladiator fights were a national past time and not everybody was killed, very few were actually.
ReplyDeleteI think it was wrong for the Jews to go since Judaism places such a strong emphasis on life and persevering it. In addition, it is a commandment not to commit murder and, by watching, they were basically as bad as the people murdering others. I think it was considered acceptable in that time and culture and, since the Jews were living there, they believed it was okay. However, being Jewish, it is not acceptable. I believe I would go once out of curiosity, since the majority was going, but I think it wold be a traumatic experience.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe it was right of the Jews, or anyone to attend these gruesome "sporting" events, however at the time this was socially acceptable. Generally, the people battling for their lives in these arenas were slaves, criminals, and those in the lowest tiers of society. However, now that is not the case and thankfully modern society has mostly learned that violence on each other in real life is not some game and that even what we would consider the lowest in society have value. Back then, the Jews should not have supported this though, because the Torah always mentions that Human Life should be of the highest priority and respect. If I was around back then and was an actively religious Jew then, no, I would not attend these horrible sporting events. However, being a Roman or just an upper class member of any society, myself or anyone of a high status would go to these events, just to prove the dominance of the position I held.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I think that these gladiator games were cruel and unhuman. That being said, I am a person of the 21st century. Back then this was the culture it was something everyone did. It was the equivilant of going to a baseball game. I dont think it was relgiously acceptable because I am sure somewhere in the toah it mentions something in the realm of "cruel deaths" or killing one another. But I think it was just something they attended without really thinkning abouut relegious consequences.
ReplyDeleteI do not believe it was okay for anyone to go to these events, including the Jews. I understand that it was the culture back then to attend these Gladiator Games but I still think that it is really messed up to fight to the death for entertainment in any time period. Also we Jews value life as a holy gift from God and we should not compromise our fundamental beliefs.
ReplyDeleteAlthough from my modern point of view, I don't think it was okay for anyone to watch the gladiator games, I think it was especially unacceptable for the Jews to watch them. Jews at this time were still trying to prevent assimilation, and going to these events was one way of joining Roman culture. Additionally, a central Jewish value is praising God for the amazing life we have been given and giving thinks for the time we have on Earth. Watching the gladiator games contradicts a huge part of what it means to be Jewish, and if I lived at the time I definitely would not have gone, even if I was a completely Hellenized Jew.
ReplyDeleteI do not think it is acceptable for anyone to attend events where they witness people killing each other. However, at the time it was the normal thing to attend and because of this I have to realize it wasn't wrong to anyone. I would not go because I believe it is morally wrong and I do not believe in violence. I think it was wrong for Jews to attend, especially because it is against our religion, but it is still wrong for anyone to attend. So, I don't think I should judge whether it was wrong or not for, specifically, Jews to attend because it was there decision and most probably saw nothing wrong with it. Also, just because it didn't seem wrong doesn't mean that every now still feels the same way.
ReplyDeleteIn Jewish tradition, there is zero allowance to sit back and watch the death of someone for entertainment. The thing is, Colosseums were used for things other than blood sport. Colosseums were mainly used for regular fighting, with very infrequent execution at the end of a duel. I think that going to these matches that do not end in death would be okay, as it's similar to a regular sporting event. I, personally, would not want to go. I would be terrified beyond belief, but that doesn't mean that other Jewish people cannot attend these events.
ReplyDeleteI do not think it is acceptable to watch people being killed. One of the commandment is tho shall not kill, so Judiasm does not tolerate killing. I belive it was wrong for the Jews too go, and majority went to keep up with the majority and for entertainment. I would have not gone because I believe all killling is wrong. Upholding my Jewish vlaues is more important that wtaching people fight to death.
ReplyDeleteAs many of the Roman and Greek parts of society went against the Jewish faith, I think it is okay that they attended. The Jews had to assimilate a little to stay alive. If they were completely against that then the society would shun them. The Helenizing of society was not in favor of the the Jewish people of Eretz Yisrael but It was what was done too keep the jews alive.
ReplyDeleteIf I were a Jew during this Greco-Roman influenced time period, the decision to visit a sporting contest, would all be dependent on how personally Hellenized and assimilated I was within the society. Personally, I hate seeing people dying in movies, so in person couldn't possibly float my boat. Although, I would have went to see non-violent sporting events, (if there was such a thing).
ReplyDeleteI think that because the sports ended in someone’s death I do not think that anyone should have gone, especially not a Jew. Most people would have gone because they felt pressured to fit in with the rest of society even though it is not acceptable. I like to think that would not have gone because it’s immoral but at the same time I think I would have felt pressured to go and gone anyways.
ReplyDeleteI think it was ok for Jews to go to Roman sporting events. For Jews to survive they need to be friends with the native people and going to sporting events is the perfect event to do that. Also there is nothing wrong with having a little fun.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn’t have gone to the sporting event, nor do I think that it was okay for the Jewish people to attend. The barbaric nature of the sport goes against Jewish principle, and the Roman influence leads to assimilation.
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